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cadence

Bibs vs Shorts

As a consequence of my getting older Iíve managed to put on a few pounds; this led me to something Iíd swore never would happen, wearing Bibs.  In my younger days I promised myself Iíd never wear them (only for old/out of shape riders) but now having tried them wouldnít go back.  Apart from possibly having to relieve myself on long rides I donít see any real negatives, any other opinions on difference or preference?
cardinal guzman

I'm right with you here cadence. I love my campy summer bibs, I can't think of a single benefit of shorts and that elastic round the midriff is awful once one is hot and sweaty.

One thing with all lycra - after a bit on the bike, my leg hairs start to poke through which can look odd to say the least, but the day I shave my legs is the day I have to lend Beelzebub a gas fire.
cadence

Back in the day when I was serious about riding peer pressure got the better of me and I did shave my legs for a few years, caught a lot of flack from non riding friend though.  It did give me a new appreciation of what women go through just to look good.
thunderthighs

bibs.. i hate shorts.....i really do... ciao
berck

I prefer the bibs over shorts. They are generally more comfortable. It took a bit of getting used to it in the crotch area at first. Once I figured how to adjust right, things have been fine.

My old regret with bibs is when I have the need to use the facilities to relieve myself. Usually not a problem on shorter rides, but it can be a bit difficult on long rides.

I don't have any problems with hair through my shorts Wink
forza_petacchi

I used to use shorts, but I got a pair of bibs last year, and I've never looked back.  I love them.
cardinal guzman

berck wrote:
My old regret with bibs is when I have the need to use the facilities to relieve myself. Usually not a problem on shorter rides, but it can be a bit difficult on long rides.

I don't have any problems with hair through my shorts Wink


I just hoik one of the legs right up and spray away!

Are you a shaver or a waxer? (ouch) Shocked
Bartali

Why Bibs of course!  Don't know where the "Bibs are for old out of shape riders" comes from?  On my planet all the pros are wearling bibs Smile
CapeRoadie

Bibs, of course.
berck

cardinal guzman wrote:

Are you a shaver or a waxer? (ouch) Shocked


I've never waxed. I have discovered this stuff. Wonderful product.
headwind

I shave.

Bibs.  I cant even imagine shorts.  Like Bartali said, all pros wear bibs.
CapeRoadie

berck wrote:
cardinal guzman wrote:

Are you a shaver or a waxer? (ouch) Shocked


I've never waxed. I have discovered this stuff. Wonderful product.


Shaving oil?  Dude!  Have you seen gas prices?  I just take the shaver and go at it in the shower with soap and water.  My wife and I compare.  I think I do a decent job, but she's always smoother.  My 5-year old likes to remind me that now I'm "just like Mommy".  She might be missing something... thankfully...
berck

Hey, not nicks or cuts for quite a while. I can't say the same thing when I used soap and water or shaving cream.

Besides, its not a petroleum product anyway.
CapeRoadie

I was joking.  My legs look like the surface of the moon (except not so powdery in real life).
headwind

i just use soap...but may try regular shave cream. can anyone out there comment?
cardinal guzman

Well I'm quite swarthy (I get shadow as I'm putting on after shave) and nothing compares to nivea moisturising foam and standard nivea after the aftershave. ( many plastic surgeons prescribe nivea for after care as it's so good for the skin) This may work on legs as well?
kellyrocheearly

Bib shorts always!!
As for shaving the legs, i just jump in the shower with the old Mach 3 Turbo and jobs done in a few minutes. Whack on some moisturiser and away you go.
The only time its a pain is when i've grown them all winter and i gotta do them over 2 or 3 days
cadence

I shaved my legs for a few years, didnít make me any faster, maybe made me look faster, I donít know if there is any real reason to shave ones legs?
CapeRoadie

kellyrocheearly wrote:
Bib shorts always!!
As for shaving the legs, i just jump in the shower with the old Mach 3 Turbo and jobs done in a few minutes. Whack on some moisturiser and away you go.
The only time its a pain is when i've grown them all winter and i gotta do them over 2 or 3 days


Where have you been?  Racing tomorrow?  I'll be doing Best Buddies.  100 miles of cruising with a clambake and the B-52's with the Kennedys.  Should be fun!  Missed you at Sterling this year.  I'll be doing a few more ITT's at Duxbury on Thursday nights.  Did my first one last night.  It was fun!
kellyrocheearly

CapeRoadie wrote:
kellyrocheearly wrote:
Bib shorts always!!
As for shaving the legs, i just jump in the shower with the old Mach 3 Turbo and jobs done in a few minutes. Whack on some moisturiser and away you go.
The only time its a pain is when i've grown them all winter and i gotta do them over 2 or 3 days


Where have you been? †Racing tomorrow? †I'll be doing Best Buddies. †100 miles of cruising with a clambake and the B-52's with the Kennedys. †Should be fun! †Missed you at Sterling this year. †I'll be doing a few more ITT's at Duxbury on Thursday nights. †Did my first one last night. †It was fun!


Missed last 3 weekends of racing and had a week off the bike with a calf injury but started back riding last weekend. Gonna ride Wells Ave next week, take a beating and try and get into shape from June onwards. Pissed off i had to miss Blue Hills and Sterling, really enjoyed those last year.
berck

cadence wrote:
I shaved my legs for a few years, didnít make me any faster, maybe made me look faster, I donít know if there is any real reason to shave ones legs?


Once you crash, you'll understand. Cuts and scraps are easier to clean and seem to heal faster. I've only crashed twice in the past 16 years on the road bike, but those number go up quite a bit on the mountain bike.
cardinal guzman

Does anyone shave their arms then?
CapeRoadie

cardinal guzman wrote:
Does anyone shave their arms then?


I did two years ago because it seemed consistent with shaving the legs.  But then winter came and went and it just seemed like too much work.  Haven't done it since.
cardinal guzman

I think as berck indicated above, the only reason for shaving is for massage and ease of picking at roadrash scabs.

Thinking about it, I would bet that hairs improve aerodynamics as they almost certainly smooth out turbulence, as long as the airflow is travellling in the direction of the 'pile'.
Ralphnorman

cardinal guzman wrote:
I think as berck indicated above, the only reason for shaving is for massage and ease of picking at roadrash scabs.

Thinking about it, I would bet that hairs improve aerodynamics as they almost certainly smooth out turbulence, as long as the airflow is travellling in the direction of the 'pile'.

ah, but does the aerodynamic benefit overcome the weight? Consider the weight of one hair, then consider the number of hairs on your legs alone. That will be quite a bit of weight to a serious racer IMO.
Bartali

Are F1 cars hairy? Wink

I think the weight of a liberal application od Assos bum cream makes the weight of the hairs pale into insignificance!
cardinal guzman

Bartali wrote:
Are F1 cars hairy? Wink

I think the weight of a liberal application od Assos bum cream makes the weight of the hairs pale into insignificance!


Laughing

We're still playing catch up with nature on the hair issue, here's some insect wings....

[img]http://science.exeter.edu/jekstrom/JPEG/Beewin~1.jpe[/img]
berck

Bartali wrote:

I think the weight of a liberal application od Assos bum cream makes the weight of the hairs pale into insignificance!


bum cream? who uses that stuff? Wink
cardinal guzman

berck wrote:
bum cream? who uses that stuff? Wink


Are we back on porn here? Shocked  Razz
berck

cardinal guzman wrote:


Are we back on porn here? ShockedRazz


Not intentionally. I was joking because I know a lot of people who use it. I've never tried it.
cardinal guzman

double entendres abounding, I use bag-balm, you only need a tiny amount so it's kind to the chamois, it smells nice(ish), it really works incredibly well - I also use it on grazes and abrasions and it's cheap as chips. Me and a million cows can't be wrong!
berck

cardinal guzman wrote:
double entendres abounding, I use bag-balm, you only need a tiny amount so it's kind to the chamois, it smells nice(ish), it really works incredibly well - I also use it on grazes and abrasions and it's cheap as chips. Me and a million cows can't be wrong!


Thanks cg. I may need to pick some up. I'm still a bit sore from last Saturday.
Bartali

Its good stuff - question is wheter you apply to chamois or skin? Wink
forza_petacchi

Chamois.
cardinal guzman

skin. (look away now MJM) Just a 'lipbalm dosage' smeared into the crease each side of the nadgers then rubbed down and back into the required areas.

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