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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Movies Reply with quote

I just saw the German movie "Lives of Others" -- I can see why it won the academy award...I think it easily could have won Best Picture, Period!

The guy who played the Stasi Interrogator gave a great performance.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just watched The Departed.

Strange it won Scorcese an Oscar as it didn't have half the depth of a lot of his classics.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really thought Nicholson's performance was over the top and brought the picture down for me...I loved the performances of the rest though...DiCaprio, Damon, Baldwin, Wahlberg, Sheen and some of the others were awesome in that.

When you look at the competition, Scorsese wasn't really up against much.

I also thought Babel was over-rated as that movie reached out too far in trying to globalize its story lines...The def Japanaese girl's story line was just a blatant attempt to sex it up....Maybe they should have just made a movie on her character but I didn't like the merging of all those stories into one...In the end, it only served to diminish from the other storylines.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the Americans still make movies? I hadn't realised - I thought it was more a case of human cartoons made by 14 year olds for 14 year olds.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knocked Up is the best comedy I've seen since the Wedding Crashers....hilarious movie!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do the Americans still make movies? I hadn't realised - I thought it was more a case of human cartoons made by 14 year olds for 14 year olds.


Not in Hollywood they don't. But give Robert Redford some credit for Sundance.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the moment, Hollywood certainly remake movies. Isn't Peter Jackson (the bloke who made a hash of Lord of the rings) about to do the same remaking The Dambusters? What do you think Gibson's dog will be called in the American version this time? Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do the Americans still make movies? I hadn't realised - I thought it was more a case of human cartoons made by 14 year olds for 14 year olds.


My sarcasm will be my undoing one day!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do the Americans still make movies? I hadn't realised - I thought it was more a case of human cartoons made by 14 year olds for 14 year olds.


Yes, Americans still make movies. It's easy, just take a Japanese horror hit and remake it with snotty American 20 something actors.

They also make TV comedies except this time it's not Japanese but British shows that get copied. Whenever someone here talks about how funny the American version of The Office is I just want to smack them. Really hard. Often.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey sooty, how about this one? It looks good:

http://www.willowpondfilms.com/viewer3.html?file=saccovanzetti

http://www.willowpondfilms.com/who.html
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such injustice - obviously we in the UK are hardly immune from the same disease - the thought of this case (and I remember my father, a great and true radical telling me about this when I was very young) and all those other injustices quite literally make my stomach churn and get knotted with anger.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bianchigirl wrote:
Such injustice - obviously we in the UK are hardly immune from the same disease - the thought of this case (and I remember my father, a great and true radical telling me about this when I was very young) and all those other injustices quite literally make my stomach churn and get knotted with anger.


So maybe we won't see that one when you and your family come to visit! But those film clips were pretty amazing. It was a worldwide protest in an age long before the internet. Americans are still making good films, I think. The problem with America is that making buck too often takes over and isn't tempered by common sense, judgement and good taste.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that's dead right. It's completely illogical to think that there aren't any Americans who can make great films, they have made many, and occasionally still do! It's interesting to see European directors go to the US, the suits come in and somehow they never make a great film again.
If you think of some of the storylines in European hit films - say obvious ones like Amelie or The Hairdresser's Husband - the money men would never have let these potty scripts get anywhere near production. "Well it's about this little boy who is sexually obsessed with his buxom hairdresser..."
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sooty wrote:
Yes, that's dead right. It's completely illogical to think that there aren't any Americans who can make great films, they have made many, and occasionally still do! It's interesting to see European directors go to the US, the suits come in and somehow they never make a great film again.
If you think of some of the storylines in European hit films - say obvious ones like Amelie or The Hairdresser's Husband - the money men would never have let these potty scripts get anywhere near production. "Well it's about this little boy who is sexually obsessed with his buxom hairdresser..."



You need to see "Knocked Up" and report back...This was my favorite comedy since "Sideways"....
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sooty, did you like "Waking Ned Devine"? Or "Billy Elliot"? Or "The Bicycle Thief"?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sooty, did you like "Waking Ned Devine"? Or "Billy Elliot"? Or "The Bicycle Thief"?


"Waking Ned Devine" - Great movie, soundtrack awesome.

How to get MerlinGuy to go see your movie:

1) Include a high speed car chase through any cool European city. i.e. Ronin, Borne Identity, Transporter.

2) Include Jean Reno. i.e. Ronin, Crimson Rivers, Wasabi.

3) Have some Japanese girl with long, wild hair crawl creepily across the screen. i.e. Ringu.

4) Have a bunch of crazy British crooks steal something. i.e. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Snatch, Laycake, The Limey.

5) Take some wild west outlaws put them on a beat up spaceship and throw in some plastic dinosaurs. i.e. ????
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sooty, did you like "Waking Ned Devine"? Or "Billy Elliot"? Or "The Bicycle Thief"?


In the UK we call "The Bicycle Thief" "Bicycle Thieves". Saw it as a nipper, thought it wonderful - have seen it a couple of times as a more informed adult and still think it's a masterpiece. It's a bit of a chestnut classic of World cinema - but it is a great old film anyhow. Criterion have released it on DVD recently - like to have this.
I assume you didn't mean Nichetti's "Icicle Thief"?

I thought Billy Elliott was appalling shite - totally predictable, a typically self conscious attempt to make a hit UK movie by tugging the obvious heart strings - and do modern Brit directors think that a film can be made "gritty" by adding "fuck" every 10 seconds? Almost as bad as "Little Voice" - a truly dreadful film.

I've not seen Waking Ned Devine.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sooty wrote:
CapeRoadie wrote:
Sooty, did you like "Waking Ned Devine"? Or "Billy Elliot"? Or "The Bicycle Thief"?


In the UK we call "The Bicycle Thief" "Bicycle Thieves". Saw it as a nipper, thought it wonderful - have seen it a couple of times as a more informed adult and still think it's a masterpiece. It's a bit of a chestnut classic of World cinema - but it is a great old film anyhow. Criterion have released it on DVD recently - like to have this.
I assume you didn't mean Nichetti's "Icicle Thief"?

I thought Billy Elliott was appalling shite - totally predictable, a typically self conscious attempt to make a hit UK movie by tugging the obvious heart strings - and do modern Brit directors think that a film can be made "gritty" by adding "fuck" every 10 seconds? Almost as bad as "Little Voice" - a truly dreadful film.

I've not seen Waking Ned Devine.


do they even market American movies in the UK anymore??? I can imagine you guys wouldn't get the gist of many American comedies' humor since alot of it is based on current pop culture in America.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sooty, spot on with Billy Elliot - there was an interesting film to be made about notions of pride and masculinity and the place of art, but that wasn't it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sooty wrote:
CapeRoadie wrote:
Sooty, did you like "Waking Ned Devine"? Or "Billy Elliot"? Or "The Bicycle Thief"?


In the UK we call "The Bicycle Thief" "Bicycle Thieves". Saw it as a nipper, thought it wonderful - have seen it a couple of times as a more informed adult and still think it's a masterpiece. It's a bit of a chestnut classic of World cinema - but it is a great old film anyhow. Criterion have released it on DVD recently - like to have this.
I assume you didn't mean Nichetti's "Icicle Thief"?

I thought Billy Elliott was appalling shite - totally predictable, a typically self conscious attempt to make a hit UK movie by tugging the obvious heart strings - and do modern Brit directors think that a film can be made "gritty" by adding "fuck" every 10 seconds? Almost as bad as "Little Voice" - a truly dreadful film.

I've not seen Waking Ned Devine.


Agreed, all. In Billy Elliot, they didn't need to make his childhood friend gay in order to prove he wasn't. I guess they thought we'd think all male dancers are gay.

See Waking Ned Devine.



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