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Vuelta 2016: Stages 18-21. Onward to Madrid Sept 8-11th.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:05 pm    Post subject: Vuelta 2016: Stages 18-21. Onward to Madrid Sept 8-11th.  Reply with quote

Stage 18:-






Stage 19:-






Stage 20:-




Mountain passes & hills Benidorm / Alto de Aitana. Air Force Squadron 193.2KM

   Km 31.0 - Coll de Rates.13 kilometre-long climb at 3% - category 2

   Km 62.0 - Alto de Vall de Ebo.8 kilometre-long climb at 5.4% - category 2

   Km 82.6 - Alto de Tollos.4.1 kilometre-long climb at 5.9% - category 2

   Km 148.4 - Pto. de Tudons. 380 m. Primer paso. CV-7707.1 kilometre-long climb at 5.3% - category 2

   Km 193.2 - Alto de Aitana. Escuadrón del Aire21 kilometre-long climb at 5.9% - category H



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're off.
Clearly too much to expect the same today.
It is hot and sunny.
At some point the GC teams will drill it to the bottom of the final climb.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're on the wrong thread Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems the Vuelta finished a Sunday too early Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biosphere wrote:
You're on the wrong thread Smile


Well, you could have moved it for me, I was still half asleep.
Oh and you missed the last turkey in the shop: it was the plumpest. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently the wind is going to play a role.
It's become a strong gusting head/crosswind.
Might be good for a few seconds here and there.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HuwB wrote:
Apparently the wind is going to play a role.
It's become a strong gusting head/crosswind.
Might be good for a few seconds here and there.


Quintana is smaller, Froome has more power.

So is that a linear thing in an ITT - i.e. it favours whoever is already the faster / has the better power to area ?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mazda wrote:
HuwB wrote:
Apparently the wind is going to play a role.
It's become a strong gusting head/crosswind.
Might be good for a few seconds here and there.


Quintana is smaller, Froome has more power.

So is that a linear thing in an ITT - i.e. it favours whoever is already the faster / has the better power to area ?


Power comes from a rider's volume, drag from their area. If the volume is increased (bigger rider) their drag does not increase at a corresponding rate, so on the flat and other things being equal, bigger riders get an TT benefit compared to smaller riders - as far as wind and drag are concerned. On paper anyway Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuft was reported at the first check @ 12.5 km in 14:54.
I was thinking "headwind, what headwind ?" Smile

His time is now given as 20:13.

Fastest so far at S1 is Campenaerts at 40.9 kmh.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Froome and Quintana will probably get a fleeting look at each other in that long doubleback near the end.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either Froome has gone off way too fast or it's going to be game on gain tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nairo is not exactly dawdling ...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading online and given his split fit the first third, it would seem like the master of pacing has gone off too fast?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First part contains the only real climb.
So you might expect them to perform better than bigger riders.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contador drops 30" to Castroviejo (from -3 to -33) on the next bit.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talansky 53" up on Yates.
Contador a minute on Chaves (although a lot of that was the first section).
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quintana pacing himself, another 46 seconds lost.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if they do the final third like the first 2, Froomme will still have about 1:25 deficit?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct. Still far too much, IMO.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sanchez loses a massive chunk in the last section.

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