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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:46 am    Post subject: Tour 2016, Stages 8-9, To Andorra in 9 climbs. July 9-11  Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again for the above Huw Smile

I'm looking forward to watching some stages properly this weekend.

Looking at Arcalis closely, 10km at 7% doesn't immediately jump out as a HC climb. I suppose altitude is part of it, but compared to Tourmalet being a double Arcalis the day before (nearly 20km at the same gradient) I wonder if the classification is also because it will be raced a lot harder given it's position in the stage - it will do a lot more damage?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biosphere wrote:
Thanks again for the above Huw Smile

I'm looking forward to watching some stages properly this weekend.

Looking at Arcalis closely, 10km at 7% doesn't immediately jump out as a HC climb. I suppose altitude is part of it, but compared to Tourmalet being a double Arcalis the day before (nearly 20km at the same gradient) I wonder if the classification is also because it will be raced a lot harder given it's position in the stage - it will do a lot more damage?


We stayed in a hotel at the foot of the Arcalis, when we went to see the MTB worlds, last year and when the Vuelta was in town.
On the evening after the stage, instead of going back to the hotel, we decided to drive to the top. We had heard that day at stage start, that the Tour was planning a similar stage for next (this) year.
Anyhow, it was the one, disappointing climb we saw that day. Much of it is little more than false flat. Only in the final kms is there any gradient would could consider calling significant.
At the top, it's just a barren cul de sac containing one ski lift and a sad looking cafe.
Els Cortals, where we had witnessed Aru begin his winning campaign, it most certainly is not.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today's weather:-
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the risk of sounding like a combined armchair general / statistician, the Arcalis profile was suited to peak Ullrich.

The 1997 top 3:

1. Jan Ullrich (GER) | 22.55, 26,18 km/h, VAM 1826 m/h, 6,77 W/kg
2. Marco Pantani (ITA) | 23.36, 25,42 km/h, VAM 1774 m/h, 6,57 W/kg
3. Richard Virenque (FRA) | 23.36, 25,42 km/h, VAM 1774 m/h, 6,57 W/kg

Anyway, there's the small matter of today to worry about first Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some pre-race day gossip. Contador (back) to Trek

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/c...fredo-on-tour-de-france-rest-day/
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crash in the neutral zone. Geraint Thomas and Jan Bakelants are involved but apparently without any consequence. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Crash in the neutral zone. Geraint Thomas and Jan Bakelants are involved but apparently without any consequence. Embarassed


this might just be a perception thing but this tour hasn't been big on crashes. you had morkov taking down bennett, contador crash and yesterdays banner moment but not much other crashes. this has probably contributed to the fact that we still have 198 riders in the race
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5kms to the top for Pinot and Majka.
Guess who promised before the start today, to stay and work for Contador and Kreuziger? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Just been looking at some TV and was surprised to see both Majka and Pinot at the pointy end. Opportunity for a long cycle ride has come up so I go enjoy that instead. Catch up tonight.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ITV 4 speculating upon Cav being hors delay today.

Lovely scenery to watch but the racing is so TDF....
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lovely scenery to watch but the racing is so TDF....


Agree about the scenery.  But we did have  a wee escape of three strong guys, until Thibaut cracked.  Guess he fancies a jersey tonight.

Not exactly sure about the racing, but i guess you mean Sky leading the peloton forever until the last five k when someone will attack.  I suppose that is what will happen today.  And probably tomorrow.
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ITV 4 speculating upon Cav being hors delay today.

Lovely scenery to watch but the racing is so TDF....


Latest being 23 minutes behind and classified as delai

Morkov the first retirement

Still five sky riders Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poels and froome take mountain points from majka. I'd say this was more getting in front for descent.

Bennett showing mechanic skills in replacing kelderman's wheel
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Bennett took his wheel off then Wilco got a spare bike. #Jumbofail
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must admit watching Sky lead the parade for endless k is already getting old.
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Suddenly a reduced group.  Might get interesting.  Allez Dan Martin.
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Yeah right, none of you are surprised!

Pedals more than most in that position, I think he has been practising.  the rest of them are like animals caught in headlamps.

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I should stuck with Froome for my FP!  Who would have guessed he would do THiS?
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Five out eight for the Brits!  Those French are not happy.


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