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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:31 am    Post subject: Rugby Thread  Reply with quote

Let's hear it!

What about that haka in the dresser for the wales game?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi cazzata, what was that about then? I only got to see England/AB's and the French tests.
I heard they had to get rid of the throat cutting gesture, but I see the My Package Is Bigger Than Your Package bit is still in.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol - a big ole pissing contest!

Yeah so, the wales - NZ match. You know the all-blacks always do the haka before the start of the game, on the pitch. Well this time the welsh wanted to play their anthem after it, so the all-blacks just did it in the dresser.

Bit of a row, and the all-blacks saying they may have to do it all in the dresser from now on.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Food for thought:

Eddie Jones eyes spell in England job

Jones would give a 10-month deal at England 'serious consideration'
Former Australia coach Eddie Jones is interested in filling the vacant England post on a short-term basis for the 2007 Six Nations and the World Cup.
Jones was coach of the Australian side who lost to England in the 2003 World Cup final but was fired last year.

"Having coached at international level I'd like to do so again and a job coaching England is one of the biggest in the world," he said.

Jones also sees a semi-final berth at the World Cup as a realistic ambition.

"There are only six sides competing for fourth spot, so the chances of reaching a semi-final are pretty good," he added in an interview in the Sunday Times.

If the RFU asked me to look at a 10-month contract, I would most definitely give it serious consideration

Eddie Jones
"You have to beat South Africa in the group stage but, if you do, anything can happen because you get momentum."

With just eight weeks until England start their 2007 Six Nations campaign, speculation is mounting over who will replace Andy Robinson as head coach.

Robinson was axed last week after winning just nine of his 22 games in charge.

A host of names have been linked with the England job, including Jones, former South Africa coach Nick Mallett, Harlequins coach Dean Richards and former Wasps and Ireland coach Warren Gatland.

606 DEBATE: Is Jones an ideal short-term solution for England?

"Nobody wants to see England doing poorly because it is not in the interests of the game globally," said Jones, who is coach of Super 14 club Queensland Reds.

"So if the RFU asked me to look at a 10-month contract through to the end of the World Cup, I would most definitely give it serious consideration."

Jones, who has also coached at English club Saracens, said he would be happy working with the existing specialist coaches in the England set-up and would bring in former rugby league player Andy Farrell as centre.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about Jones. He likes to play an open game most of the time, but would he have the cattle?

What he is good at, is making a side with weaknesses play above themselves, while exploiting the weak points of the opposition. While Oz was quite rubbish at the end of his term, they never lost by much and managed to stay in games when they should have been played off the park. Saying that he had the backs to cause trouble and mask the troubles of the forward pack.

The fact he is not english should not matter, regardless of what Mike catt thinks. That is the same mike catt who is Sth African by the way.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fantastic Heineken Cup game on the box today Castres36-Perpignan28. Really hard fast game - impossible to know who would win right up till the end, with Castres as the underdogs. I see Leicester creamed Bourgignon yesterday.
Can you guys catch any of these games in England? Or is it on Sky or something?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of games on Sky.

I want to go and catch a Biarritz game live. Get to see some high class rugby and eat some of the best food around.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watched a good tight game yesterday between Stade Francais and Sale. Pouring rain, Sale took it, but shamefull whinging from the French commentaters that the ref was favouring Sale.
The irony is, the ref wash Welsh. Can you imagine a Welsh ref favouring an English side?
MWAHAHAHA.....
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find this thread so interesting. Truly I do. Now if I just understood the half of it perhaps what you say would make more sense. Great really, just a bit in the dark. Desert girl you know. Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's hope this get's us back on the right track. And let's hope he only has to coach and nothing else.

"Former Bath and Ireland coach Brian Ashton has been appointed as England head coach with immediate effect.
Ashton has been promoted from his role as attack coach and will continue to work with forwards and defence specialists John Wells and Mike Ford.
"It's a massive privilege and honour to be asked to do the job," said Ashton.
"I recognise the challenges ahead and, along with the other coaches, my focus now is to prepare the England team to play Scotland in the Six Nations."
Ashton's appointment was unanimously agreed by the Rugby Football Union's management board after his name was put forward by director of elite rugby Rob Andrew.
Andrew said he had no doubts about moving Ashton up to replace former head coach Andy Robinson, who resigned at the end of November after a dismal run of results.
"Brian is the most experienced coach in England, he has enormous respect with the players and he has massive international and club experience," said Andrew."
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christ, this board's deader than flaired trousers. Where the fuck is everybody?

Well, Ashton's made his choice and it certainly seems pretty exciting. Farrell in centre with Mike Tindal.....hmmmm....just have to wait and see. And WILKINSON BACK IN!!!! but will he last longer than the first tackle? And crash, do you know why we're so short on scrum half talent?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sheep

They have all become coxes in rowing Razz

England is going to have the slowest pair of centres in the world. Would not want to be a wing on that team.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But what's the problem with our scrum halves? Is it bad coaching? By the time the ball comes out of scrums and rucks you'd have time to boil an egg, and the opposition have had time to build a solid wall to stop us.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its a good point sheep. England's scrum is always good so the platform is there for the scrumhalf to have a lot of time to get set and give a good pass.

But England do not recycle good ball and dilly around with it. When they do decide to use the ball the defense is set. Other teams don't devote so many men to mauls these days and get set in defense. Pick the ball up, hit the gain line, go down and do it again and suck in players-then spin the ball out wide.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crash, I just got a mail from a mate who played for years, and still follows the game closely and this is what he says

<<The present English scrum-halves are suspect because they all need to take a step (or two) to wind up a pass. Welsh and French scruum-halves pick up and pass in one. Also, quite often the English scrum-half has to ferret the ball trapped in his own players private parts or whatever on the floor. Ball (like NZ) is there and away. That's what I think anyway.>>

trouble is he dosen't say WHY that is - oh well we'll soon find out our form come sunday.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking a step before you pass it usually suggest that the scrum half is not getting tidy ball or he does not have a strong pass.

With the forward power they have the platform for good ball should be fine. Just maybe the flyhalfs are too deep from the scrumhalf and they feel the need to take that extra step.

You will be the Scots, even with that snail backline.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

snail back line eh? I'd say, for all their faults, Robinson and Balshaw know how to run!

<<England coach Brian Ashton says Jonny Wilkinson, Andy Farrell and Jason Robinson are key to England reaching "levels where we haven't been before". >>

wow this is pretty good stuff, huh? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its slow-come on the halfs and centres are not quick.

Robinson for all his past deeds is nowhere near as quick as he once was and is not the same player he once was. Still a very good player. Bradshaw is quick I will grant you that.

Lets face it, if you can't get over the Scots then there are problems.

Its such an open 6 nations this season. I can't wait
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well they beat us last year!

you're right though, it's going to be an interesting 6N
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheep

mate your letting facts get in the way of this discussion Very Happy

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